Pope Francis' 2014 Pronouncement on IN VITRO FERTILIZATION

 I missed this three years ago.  

When the Holy Father spoke out clearly against IVF.......

This is in continuity with  the Pope's before him.  

..............from By Francis X. Rocca Catholic News Service

11.17.2014 12:00 AM ET

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VATICAN CITY (CNS) -- Pope Francis denounced a "false compassion" that would justify abortion, euthanasia, artificial reproduction technologies and medical research violating human dignity. And he urged medical doctors to "go against the current" and assert "conscientious objection" to such practices, which he called sins "against God the creator."

The pope made his remarks Nov. 15 in a meeting with members of the Association of Italian Catholic Medical Doctors.

"The dominant thinking sometimes suggests a false compassion, that which believes it is helpful to women to promote abortion; an act of dignity to provide euthanasia; a scientific breakthrough to produce a child and consider it to be a right, rather than a gift to welcome; or to use human lives as guinea pigs, presumably to save others," Pope Francis said.

"We are living in a time of experimentation with life. But a bad experiment. Making children rather than accepting them as a gift, as I said. Playing with life. Be careful, because this is a sin against the Creator: against God the creator, who created things this way," the pope said.

Catholic moral teaching forbids abortion, euthanasia, the use artificial reproduction technologies such as in-vitro fertilization and research that involves the destruction of human embryos.

"Fidelity to the Gospel of life and respect for life as a gift from God sometimes require choices that are courageous and go against the current, which in particular circumstances, may become points of conscientious objection," Pope Francis said.

There are still Heroes at the Vatican!!

He has the face and demeanor of a Secret Service body guard.
That's good because he is a Body guard.

Watch him in action at 1h32m50s and 1h34m30s!!

Sisters and Brothers, all is not lost with this papacy! Watch this past Christmas Vigil Mass from beginning to end. The music and overall reverent atmosphere are beautiful.  Thanks to MSGR Marini and his 'Body guards', there is no hand Communion, 

NONE.  

There is even kneeling for Communion @ 1h31m00s and a beautiful kneeling for the Creed 'et incarnatus est...' (57m30s)

Do not lose hope!  Cardinal Sarah still reigns at CDW and apparently MSGR Marini is continuing his reverence revolution he began under Pope Benedict. (and the Holy Father will [[I HOPE]] regularize SSPX without them swearing to Vatican II) These things are not nothing!

 LEX ORANDI

The Holy Father is letting MSGR Marini continue on his way.  That should tell us something.

CONTROLLED IMMIGRATION SAVES LIVES

(From US Border Patrol Website) The 'Fiscal year' 2017, which ended 30 Sept, recorded the 2nd lowest number of border migrant deaths, 294, going back thru the two presidencies of Obama and Bush.  Trump wasn't president the first four months of the Fiscal Year but already his first year total was almost 80 fewer deaths than the annual average of 370 deaths per year for Obama and 384 deaths per year for Bush.statista

Sadly, the facts can't stop the AP and USAToday from claiming....

migrant deaths up  !!???

Senator Elizabeth Warren Argues the Economic Benefits of Abortion

In this TIME article, Abortion helps your career, Senator ElizabethWarren ticks off the advantages of abortion over live birth with some of the following gems......

"Immediately after having children, women experience a measurable decline in take-home pay — a decline that continues throughout their lives and on into retirement."

"(for) a student still in high school or working toward her college degree, an unexpected pregnancy can derail her most careful plans for financial independence."

Warren follows up with the following WHOPPER....

"A lot of women are alive today because of Roe." 

[[[This last one is rich!!! what about all those dead baby girls?!!!!
She could have fixed her statement by adding 'NOT'!
"A lot of women are NOT alive day because of Roe!!!!']]]

Senator Warren pays no tribute to, nor does she even ackowledge, even one pro-life arguments...like: 

 -there are two lives to consider, not just one  or....

 -abortion goes against the teachings of all traditional Faiths nor...
 -abortion causes longterm psychological issues

 -abortion targets black people (who are aborted at 3X the rate of white people) nor...

 -had America's 60 million aborted babies lived, then we would be a far richer nation now with no Social Security crisis ....etc

Warren doesn't  bother addressing ANY of her opponents' concerns above, nor does she even mouth President Clinton's 'Safe, Legal and Rare' platitude.

I fear this reflects a soulless attitude on her behalf....one that argues moral questions SOLELY from the standpoint of economics, and then thinks that pretty much covers it

President Trump addresses 2018 March for Life

TRUMP TO MARCHERS: 'WE ARE WITH YOU ALL THE WAY'

BTW, this is a first.

Presidents Reagan and Bush II each 'phoned it in' in 1987, 1988 and 2003, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008 ,respectively.

I have found some references to Bush I phoning in support....just haven't been able to track it down yet.

Trump will become the first sitting president to address the 2018 March for Life via a live video.

Trump will address 2018 March for Life

Mark Shea bans Kneeling Catholic

You can find the exchange here  Jim Bakker and Trump

Kneeling Catholic • 19 hours ago

Mark,

I don’t understand your ‘guilt by association’ argument. It seems like you are saying:

1. Jim Bakker and other name-it-claim-it preachers back trump

2. Therefore it would be wrong for you to back trump

That’s not a valid argument. Else we would have to condemn the 

Holy Father as well. Name-it-claim-its love Francis. 

He hosted Kenneth Copeland et al and treated them as his spiritual equals. 

Remember?

AnonCollie  Kneeling Catholic • 14 hours ago

[Citation Needed] on Francis and Kenneth Copeland.

kneeling catholic  AnonCollie • 13 hours ago

Thanks for tuning in!!

http://www.kcm.org/watch/tv...

http://www.worthynews.com/1...

AnonCollie

Do you know how hard I had to search to find a source that wasn't from 

some prosperity gospel yellow rag journalism?

Pretty far down the line.

Francis did meet with Copeland, but I cannot fault the man for that. 

He may be incomplete disagreement with Copeland's trash theology 

of prosperity, but Francis is enough of a diplomat to at least hear people out.

Trump is mired in their heretical theology of God favoring the rich. 

I don't think there's a comparison.

kneeling catholic  AnonCollie • 12 hours ago

Friend,I do admire your good sportsmanship. You are a much better loser than me!

>>>Trump is mired in their heretical theology of God favoring the rich.<<<

Nice parting shot! 

and I won't embarrass you any further by asking you to citation me a 

trump-quote to prove that :-)

Me personally, I don't care if Trump is a heretic. 

I don't care if he is Zoroastrian! (Cyrus was). 

I don't care if Charles Manson voted absentee for him.

I support Trump, as a Catholic, simply because:

1. World Peace. He is the only US politician who does not want to 

needlessly antagonize Putin and risk Armageddon. 

He is alone on this. Democrats and Republicans--to include Pence-- 

are all intent on increasing tensions.

 Let us pray the President's cooler head prevails on this. We need World Peace. Visualize it!

2. Prolife. He will get Roe v Wade overturned if he survives

3. Drugs. He wants to stop their importation thru our porous borders.

4. Global Warming. He has already solved it :-)

I think we can both agree to pray for the success of our President and our Holy Father!

Marthe Lépine  kneeling catholic • 11 hours ago

"World Peace"?! Your "idol" is certainly making peace 

more likely through his name-calling exchange with that other baboon in North Korea...

kneeling catholic  Marthe Lépine • 10 hours ago

http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/...

Marthe, Sorry to be the bearer of good news :-(

Name it, claim it!

[[this last post was too much for Mr. Shea...and I was banned]]

Protestants and Heresy

I recently found this BBC portrayal of St. Dominic debating an Albigensian 'Bishop'.

I love the video, even though it was probably intended to put Dominic in a bad light.
A dear protestant lady I know watched it as well. I thought it might stir her to some Catholic sympathies seeing Dominic passionately defend:

1. Our Lord's Incarnation
2. The God of the Old Testament
3.  Our Lord's Redeeming Sacrifice

against a true modern and scoffing know-it-all.

Naaaaa! She came away sympathizing with the Albigensian!

What gives?!!

Do Protestants dislike Catholicism more than they dislike heresy?

Apparently

[update: 20 JAN 2018]

I found a great historical Podcast about the Munster Anabaptists!

Prophets of Doom  4 hours long!

What is the connection between two sets of heretics separated by 300 years?  In short: The Incarnation. Somehow, almost all Anabaptists denied that Christ was 'Incarnate of the Virgin Mary', just as had the Albigensians 300 years earlier.
This is remarkable! It could be

a) a coincidence or ...

b) it could be evidence that the Church never completely stamped out an Albigensian underground.

Most histories of the early Anabaptist leaders record that they had strong connections with the Reformers centers in Wittenberg, Zurich and Strasbourg and many of these leaders were originally priests...These two factors make it seem that both movements' denying our Lord's Incarnation could just be a coincidence.

However there are other factors that make you wonder. Such as:

1. The French Protestant Huguenots sprang up in some old Albigensian strongholds..among other places. (granted these were Reformed Protestants, not Anabaptists, NTL the early reformers were in close contact with Anabaptists.  John Calvin married one when he lived in Strasbourg)
2. Some French Protestant Huguenot historians were keen on reclaiming the Albigensians as their Christian forbearers (much like John Foxe and the Magdeburg Centuriators)
3. The Weaver connection.....Both the anabaptist and Albigensian movements seem to have spread among weavers....Queen Elizabeth even resorted to making weavers swear an oath to the Incarnation..perhaps a 'trade secret' of the weaver's guild was the Albigensian heresy?  Crazy!!

REVEREND SIMON (AKA KNOW-IT-ALL) RIDICULES VATICAN CRECHE

Father Know-it-all of Relevant Radio cuts loose:



FATHER>>>>>>>>>>.Perhaps the most amazing silliness of the season is the St. Peter’s square nativity scene by which the eye is drawn not to the child born in the manger but to a rather erotic sculpture that people are calling the “Nude Dude”. The whole thing is a busy, distracted collection of sculptures in the style of the Christmas scenes of Naples Italy.

The purported purpose of the display is to remind people of the seven corporal works of mercy. It reminds me of nothing so much as the Disney torture-chamber ride, “It’s a Small World After All”. The eye is drawn to nothing except the Nude Dude, reminding one to renew his gym membership so he is ready for swimsuit season or other clothing optional events. <<<<<<<<<<<

ROFL